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Anyways, it's not a "tulpamancy problem" no matter what

9:08 PM

Solutions to it would be the same for it occurring in any other cases like "I twitch when I focus really hard" or whatnot

9:09 PM

Oh, and no, it has no bearing whatsoever on the quality of your tulpa's development or your overall practice, aside from the as I said likely accidental placebo of it (or if it's truly only focus-related, it's unrelated to tulpas in any way whatsoever)

@Fox re the twitches, didnt you mention a few months/a year ago that you are on ketamine therapy? Sorry if i mistook you for someone else. Involutary muscle spasms are a rare side effect of using ketamine https://blog.ketamineclinics.com/blog/common-and-rare-ketamine-adverse-effects?hs_amp=true (edited)

Common And Rare Ketamine Adverse Effects

9:37 PM

if you are taking any medication prescribed by a psychiatrist, i would consider that any prolonged issues that you might develop with tulpamancy are related to either the medication or the thing you are being treated for with the medication (edited)

KiTkAT( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk

@Fox re the twitches, didnt you mention a few months/a year ago that you are on ketamine therapy? Sorry if i mistook you for someone else. Involutary muscle spasms are a rare side effect of using ketamine https://blog.ketamineclinics.com/blog/common-and-rare-ketamine-adverse-effects?hs_amp=true (edited)

Yes that's me although I haven't been on ketamine for months.

9:46 PM

The thing is the twitches seem /highly/ related to tulpa activity.

9:49 PM

Regarding vocality...I have no idea. Maybe I just need to take a break from everything and rethink things when I am less stressed out.

After doing some history checks, you've been experiencing these spasms/twitches for over a year. If it is headmate related, it probably wouldn't last that long. My best guess is that you have a condition or medication that is causing it.

9:50 PM

Besides, worrying about and focusing on these spasms will make them more frequent because you're telling yourself that it's related to tulpamancy, which will cause the body to do the spasms/twitches anytime you are doing activities related to tulpamancy.

9:51 PM

Honestly, it seems like you're wanting someone to tell you that these twitches and/or spasms are due to tulpamancy.

9:53 PM

I recommend that you stop overthinking it. Twitches and spasms are a natural thing, regardless if you have headmates.

honestly so many things can cause muscle spasms that i would not attribute it to tulpamancy. Even long covid can cause muscle spasms. If you attribute twitches to tulpamancy, well, you could basically associate it and develop something similar to what is called tiktok taurette’s https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9733629/

TikTok Tourette’s: Are We Witnessing a Rise in Functional Tic-Like ...

Perceptions of Tourette syndrome (TS) and tic disorders are often driven by social media. During the COVID-19 pandemic, social media consumption greatly increased, particularly in the adolescent population. In parallel with increased social media consumption, ...

Fox

Regarding vocality...I have no idea. Maybe I just need to take a break from everything and rethink things when I am less stressed out.

Yeab takimg a break from tulpamancy during stressful times is aleays a good choice (edited)

It's a placebo effect. People start associating things with something else, and they mistake causation and correlation.

ALiTA( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧/jk ↩️

Reply to: honestly so many things can cause muscle spasms that i would not attribute it to tulpamancy. Even lo…

closer to pavlov’s dog than placebo, but it doesn’t matter

It's similar to how if one were to get a cough, and if they believe they are sick, their mind will begin making them actually sick.

I still need to figure out how to deal with these vocality issues.

10:00 PM

What's the best way to establish continuous communication without dropouts? I don't mind if its in tulpish or my mind voice.

Fox

I still need to figure out how to deal with these vocality issues.

please figure out your other mental health challenges first, you might find out that once those are sorted all vocality issues etc disappear (edited)

Yeah, I agree with ALiTA here.

10:02 PM

I would recommend telling yourself that tulpamancy isn’t exhausting. Gaslighting oneself can actually be quite effective in a majority of things.

Marf. Okay. Maybe I'll get on Prozac or something. (edited)

Prozac for what?

I've just been tired and stressed and unhappy last few weeks, used to get this way before I was prescribed ketamine but I'm in a place where I can't get it anymore.

10:04 PM

I assume you guys meant my anxiety and depression when it comes to 'other mental health issues'.

Not really.

fingers crossed your doctor will be able to help you (edited)

Speak to a medical professional and explain your symptoms. Mention the spasms and twitches.

Tics have a very noticeable premonitory urge before they occur. They are not just muscle spasms. Regardless, I hope you do get feeling better.

Honestly, I was speaking more like conditions similar to ADHD. Our host has ADHD, which causes her to twitch occasionally. She's been doing it before she established a system.

Foxmilk ↩️

Reply to: I assume you guys meant my anxiety and depression when it comes to 'other mental health issues'.

It isn't a tic, I've had tics since I was a kid.

10:06 PM

A tic is like an itch I have to scratch.

Yup.

I don't even notice the twitch until it happens.

Muscle spasms and twitches are normal.

Unfortunately I am not in a position where I can get high quality healthcare, not for several months at least.

10:08 PM

I have a general doctor who might be able to get me an SSRI prescription but even that is a stretch.

10:08 PM

But once I move I will look into it.

I would recommend not using medication unless it is recommended and prescribed by a medical professional.

The only thing I use right now is adderall I get from a doctor which I have had a prescription for for years.

10:09 PM

But I am a foreigner in a country where I am not in the state funded healthcare system.

10:09 PM

It's a six month backlog for a psychiatrist to see me.

All I’m saying on this matter is that you shouldn't seek out medication solely to change what occurs with tulpamancy.

No I was going to ask doe Prozac because I was depressed, had nothing to do with Alex.

Alright. The way you had worded it implied that you were seeking the medication because of tulpamancy.

10:11 PM

I think your question has been answered. I’m taking my leave.

Twitches might be from stress or other health issues. I had my fingers go numb and some body parts twitching about year ago when I was stressed out

9:03 AM

I would suggest it's more a byproduct of depression, but it might be anything honestly (edited)

Milk

Tics have a very noticeable premonitory urge before they occur. They are not just muscle spasms. Regardless, I hope you do get feeling better.

Wait so my meds cause tics and not twitches? I saw a tiktok that said that only tic disorders cause tics and everything else is called 'twitches'

Ask your doctor on that one, no way I'd even consider anything tiktok has to say on this topic (edited)

Fair enough

If you acidentally think of something (like a quick thought) that changes your tulpa's apperance, or damages the tulpa's physical form, does it actually hurt the tulpa? Im kinda afraid to like acidentally think of something and that hurts the tulpa in some way potentially And does a tulpa knows everything you are thinking at all time? Or you have to think very hard for a tulpa to know?

NOT-D-BOI-9341

If you acidentally think of something (like a quick thought) that changes your tulpa's apperance, or damages the tulpa's physical form, does it actually hurt the tulpa? Im kinda afraid to like acidentally think of something and that hurts the tulpa in some way potentially And does a tulpa knows everything you are thinking at all time? Or you have to think very hard for a tulpa to know?

no, it won't. Intrusive thoughts are just that--and especially if you label them as such, it won't hurt anyone

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it doesnt hurt because its imagination, everyone in your head knows what everyone thinks

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as for does the headmate have mind-reading powers: yes, your headmate will be able to know everything you know without intentionally setting up barriers. I would recommend against intentionally setting up barriers.

Your headmate will see you shitting when you shit.

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8:47 PM

Get used to Family Shitting Sessions. (edited)

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that doesnt mean you dont get time to be alone though

yeah you can just stop paying attention to the headmate and they won't be around

8:48 PM

attention=being around at all

8:48 PM

the more consistent the attention, the more your headmate will be around in general

unless they pop up to say hi while you are shitting

if you give them attention for long enough and consistently enough, they'll just be around by default, because your brain will get used to doing that

we probably have something in between

(They will)

aapeli 🟣🥫🥔ae ↩️

Reply to: unless they pop up to say hi while you are shitting

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8:52 PM

Best to anticipate having less privacy, if you're bothered by something like that.

its not that bad if you have a healthy mindset

personally I have NO INTENTION of saying hi under those circumstances! I give my headmates plenty of privacy!

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8:55 PM

sometimes, popping up unintentionally does happen, but for such situations what I do is visualise myself dissolving into thousands of stars and drifting away

8:55 PM

strong visualisation helps with the decision to NOT be there! (edited)

but its not necessary

aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae

unless they pop up to say hi while you are shitting

to avoid unnecessary awkwardness just switch in and push whoever was fronting back

8:56 PM

you don’t need to share those moments

aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae

but its not necessary

(it's sometimes a helpful distraction

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its not awkward for us

and it doesnt really happen either

aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae

unless they pop up to say hi while you are shitting

wait... So in a hypothesis scenario, if you were to be scared by the tulpa saying hi Later somehow you forgot the tulpa But one day when you are using the bathroom you remember the day when your tulpa said hi to you while you are doing that would the tulpa revive and say hi to you again

9:01 PM

wait

9:01 PM

i have a typo

9:02 PM

i realized it probably wont change the meaning

why would you be scared

thats the typo!!

and yes its not unlikely that would happen

9:02 PM

some things work like triggers

9:03 PM

anything that reminds of them can make them come up (edited)

I came back to life in like a week after being gone for ~5 years

if you want to why not

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If it'd make you feel better about it, yes--and if you'd find it fun, yes

aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae

if you want to why not

Remember to

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Well, it may or may not be helpful, then--any attention on your tulpa is probably helpful, so I don't think working on imposition skills would hurt at all

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Not the act of staring itself--visual imposition is a practice of "open-eye imagination." How is your internal visualization? EG can you picture an apple in your head?

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Hmm. You may have some difficulty doing imposition, then--the trick to visual imposition is 1. imagining the thing 2. your eyes are open while doing this And that's it. If you've ever read a fiction book and had some visual perception of the events in the book while reading, you can do visual imposition

And yes, even just imposing their presence IRL can be a conduit for forcing/development, anything that helps you focus on them feeling like they're separate from you

isn’t it.. more complicated than that?

blanka ↩️

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Though relying on physical objects is very limiting so I don't recommend that one much

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Oh? If you're expecting visual imposition to have the same clarity and feeling as real-life visuals, I think you may be misunderstanding what visual imposition is. Could you describe what you're looking for?

blanka

Oh? If you're expecting visual imposition to have the same clarity and feeling as real-life visuals, I think you may be misunderstanding what visual imposition is. Could you describe what you're looking for?

Well, depending on how skilled you become at it.. It is the act of "tricking your senses" after all, not just simple visualization (edited)

Skyler 🐉

isn’t it.. more complicated than that?

Not really--when I'm imposed I "interact" with the real world (eg I walk around on objects that are there, blank isn't telekinetic) but that's about it. I'm just imagined, and blank's eyes are opened

ah, we’re thinking of different things then